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chrysler uk : Bearing a name held in awe by Sunbeam fans The 70s Hillman Avenger Tigercame in two forms the Tiger I and Tiger II -- these were produced insmall numbers to homologate go faster parts for group 1 race and rallyrs -- and yes they were bl__dy quick.Sorry my mistake, it is nothing to do with the Horizon, but what I wasthinking of was nothing to do with the Avenger either.It was the Talbot Sunbeam Ti (same vintage as the Horizon). Ti beingshort for Tiger (dunno why they didn't use the whole word, maybe thebudget wouldn't stretch to it?)It was a 1600cc, twin 40s, 120mph ish brick.The more serious version was the lotus sunbeam.Next time "I'll find out more" before I post .. oopsGrahamThe TI was different again it was produced to homologate the twin webbersand other Avenger Tiger mods for the Sunbeam body shape.The Sunbeam predated the Horizon, I think -- the Horizon wasthe FWD replacement for the RWD Sunbeam.No the Horizion didn't replace the Sumbeam they sold along side each otheruntil after Lynwood closed.The Sunbeam Ti label was a shameless ripp off of the BMW 2002Ti and 2002 Tiiimmage.The Horizion was just a Simca 1100 mechanically in every respect right downto the single choke Solex carb.

chrysler uk : The Sumbeam Lotus like all later Avengers needed tweaking to handle well asit had too much compliance in the suspension bushes.In article Andrew W. Macfadyen wrote:ISTR the Sunbeam being produced after Linwood closed, though I can'trecall where. It was being sold in the sub-Horizon price range andwas really replaced by the Samba.The smaller-engined Sunbeams (with the 903cc Imp engine) were ratheramusing, but they did wobble disturbingly over bumps.Which were, in turn, shameless rip-offs of the Alfa Guilia Ti image :)Not sure who used 'Ti' or 'ti' first - it's an italianism 'TurisimoInternationale' so I'd suspect Alfa or Lancia - probably Alfa.The smaller-engined Horizons were very close to a rebodied Simca 1100,with some of the sparkle lost, but the 1400 versions used the enginefrom the Alpine (which was also very much Simca derived, of course).Nice car, the Alpine, and very under-rated.And the bodyshell wasn't nearly as rigid as it could have been. Scuttleshake was a speciality of the Sunbeam.The Sunbeam was sold for quite a few months after Lynwood closed -- alwaysa big stock JIT was unheard of at Rootes/Chrysler.

chrysler uk : Here is what you do ... mount the new tires on different rims so when youtake it in for warranty repair they can not complain. As for the speedochange, the change from 225/75 or 235/75 tires to a 30 inch change wontchange your speedometer reading signifigantly, less than 10% probably. Also Ithink that the speedometer works off a magnet and a sensor now so there is nogear to change.You should write or call Chrysler and complain about the dealers attitude. Inthe U.S I doubt any dealers would say your warranty is void for going up oneor two tire sizes.Strange skid plates are a factory option if I am not mistaken. They are onCherokee's.-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- Create Your Own Free Member ForumThere's a small plastic gear mounted in the transmission housing thatis used to calibrate the speedo to the different tyres (215/75, 225/75& 30x9.5) and diff gearing (3.08, 3.56, 3.73, & 4.11) available fromthe factory. Additionally, the OBDII system used in the Jeep TJ usesa signal generated by the sensor that this gear is attached -to(outside the tranny). It's literally a 5-minute job to swap the gear,but a 20-minute job explaining to the dealership what gear you need toorder, even with a part number, nomenclature, tooth count, etc. It'ssomething that usually never gets changed by a dealer. They don'tfail & are only swapped during ring/pinion gear changes & significanttyre size swaps.

chrysler uk : 30Inch tyres are a factory option..They require no steering stops or suspensionadjustment.The parts/service guy said the only part I was missing was the speedo timing cog..Indeed.. But the fuel tank plate is a bit flimsy..So I wanted something a bit moremeaty..Say 1/3 inch steel plate..I can by them aftersales just not from Jeep..And if I fit none Jeep parts ir voidsthe warrently..Hell the next thing they will be compligning about is that Ive taken her offroad andgotten mud on her..<Grin>--Its a Jeep thing..You wouldn't understand.URL: ORIts an Anoraks thing.. You don't want to understandURL: Worth checking the accuracy of the speedo first. It probablyover-reads, potentially by up to 10%, in which case fitting slightlylarger tyres might bring it closer to reality.With his nose on the CRT Simon C Banks tapped awayusing only his index fingers...Jeep U.K. is the sole importer for Jeeps in the U.K., as such they can(and do) establish their own warranty terms. They do not offer thesame factory warranty as Chrysler (U.S.) does. Many of the warrantyterms (U.S.) are desiogned to meet U.S. legal requirements placed onthe manufacturers.FWIW, under the standard Chrysler warranty, no modifications actually"void" the warranty. Any additional parts, of course, are not covered(like a new stereo), but if the dealer can determine that themodification is the cause of the problem (like a blown u-joint whenyou have heavier aftermarket tyres fitted) they are under noobligation to repair (not under warranty terms - i.e. for free). Iwould suspect that Jeep U.K. would have similar terms. Chrysler hasan arbitration process if you think the dealership is wrong, but theprocess is often a long & drawn-out one.I doubt your 30'' tyres would void your warranty, in spite of theseemingly uninformed claim that Frosts made. It may void yourinsurance, but not the warranty. Jeeps were available with 30'' tyresas a factory option. Furthermore, there's no way that 30 tyres couldcause your seat problems. Look in your owner's manual. It shouldprecicely explain the warranty terms.

chrysler uk : NOTE : Reply address is spamguarded, Replace the pound sign (#) with a dot (.) to replyI will peer into though my warranty docs.. But I suspect that Jeep-UK will attemptto weasel their way out of any warranty hassles that they possibly can!..I Spoke to other Jeep owners about hassles they've had and I have to say I wassupprised at Jeep's quite block headed response. If I had any idea about theirattitude towards their customers for after sales and probably wouldn't have boughta Jeep.Still she is a nice little vehicle even if Jeep-UK are not very good at customerrelations.I must admit to wondering why I should bother at all with servicing with Jeepapproved parts etc. I mean they probably will void my warranty because I got mud onmy Jeep!. <Grin>.--Its a Jeep thing..You wouldn't understand.URL: ORIts an Anoraks thing.. You don't want to understandURL: I think it probably also has a lot to do with the dealer you choose to carry outyour servicing. My dealer's been great - every time it goes in for a service,there's usually something new on it (like my disconnects, hand-throttle, biggertyres, etc) and they usually say something like "Cool tyres" or "really neatidea, that hand-throttle".


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